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Prop. 8 Recap

The Prop. 8 protest happened yesterday starting at 65th and Broadway in front of the Mormon temple and moving through the streets to Columbus Circle.  The major reason being that the Mormon church (edit: and its members) played a large role financially in supporting the various nation-wide bans that occurred across the country over the last few weeks.

Here are some highlight pics of the rally.  Please feel free to comment with your own pics.




The protest is not just about gay marriage as one law in particular affects more than just the gay community.  In Arkansas the Proposed Initiative Act No. 1 was passed to ban those who are “co-habitating outside a valid marriage” from taking in foster children or adopting.  That means if you’re a straight man and straight woman “co-habitating” and un-wed you can’t foster or adopt children.  Dan Savage, of The Village Voice’s Savage Love column, wrote a very insightful Op-Ed piece that discusses a couple of specific cases and proposes the very scary steps that could be taken from such a concept.  The Arkansas Family Council wrote that the ban was to thwart the gay agenda based on the belief that gay people and their lifestyle are dangerous to children thereby making them unfit to foster or adopt.

These are the same people that argue if kids are raised by gay parents that they will, in turn, be gay.  Here’s a question then.  If gay parents make gay kids then by that formula couldn’t one assume that those gay parents must have had gay parents and their parents were gay parents and so on and so forth.  So really everyone is a big queer.

The fact that social conservatives are trying to defend the “sanctity of marriage” also proves they haven’t ever picked up a history book.  Marriage was encouraged by religious institutions to promote the practical exchange of property and beneficial skills.  Let us say it again.  Prrrrrroooopppeeerrttty.  A fisherman married a woman from a fishing family because it would help with business and it was practical for surviving in a society with little social mobility and a short life span.  We’ve left the dark age my friends.  Marriage is still about contracts and the only thing that has changed is an added symbolism of commitment and love that the ceremony and all the accessories (rings. flowers, matching crap) has come to represent.

You know how you can figure out what the bare bones practical use and exercise of marriage is about?  Ask someone who is now divorced.

  1. prop8discussion
    November 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    thanks for the close ups on the posters which expose the intolerance in your movement.

    the mormon church gave a little over $2000. The rest of the donations came from private citizens who happened to be mormon. There is nothing wrong.

    The no campaign had more money. If this is about money, why didn’t the proposition fail?

  2. November 13, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    I’m not really sure where in there I said the whole reason Prop. 8 passed was because of money. That statement is directly related to why the protest started outside of the mormon church not why the proposition passed.

  3. anne
    November 13, 2008 at 6:14 PM

    great pictures!

  4. November 13, 2008 at 9:36 PM

    They were able to capture Palin’s speech bubble, that’s pretty cool!

  5. urbzen
    November 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM

    Great post. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I read some of the wingnut reactions to Prop 8 protests and boycotts–It is kind of hilarious to listen to them get so hysterical, but then it’s tragic once you realize how many people actually buy that crap.

    Case in point, the terrifying glitter siege on a Michigan church: http://urbzen.com/2008/11/12/glitter-oh-the-humanity/

    Glitter by the bucketload? Why, god, WHY?

  6. November 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM

    Also the things that always seems to get in the way are the generalizations that are flung from both sides. Each argument has its fair amount of over-zealous participants who shouldn’t at all be taken as a representation of everyone involved but that argument could be made about any conflict I suppose.

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